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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2021 10:02:19 GMT -6
I suggest we make comments on the draft in this thread rather than in the draft thread to avoid clutter.
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Post by Oakland Athletics on May 5, 2021 10:21:06 GMT -6
I hold a special contempt for all of you who draft top 5 and were blessed by the RNG gods. Even more than I do for the rest of the league.
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Post by New York Mets on May 5, 2021 10:42:43 GMT -6
I'm very glad I was streaming and recording when doing the random number generator because I was legitimately startled when I wound up with such a high pick. I was looking more in the Bogaerts range, rather than even dreaming of deciding between guys like Trout, Acuna, and Soto. The elite players will certainly help, but building an all-around team is essential. Trout has languished on an underwhelming MLB team because of bad design. It'll be interesting to see how it all unfolds and when the first pitcher is selected.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2021 10:44:35 GMT -6
There's so many great players in this league that the first round should be interesting.... 25th.. really?  lmao |
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Post by Oakland Athletics on May 5, 2021 11:59:33 GMT -6
Picking 1-5 is like starting out as a banker in Oregon Trail.
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Post by Milwaukee Brewers on May 5, 2021 13:43:30 GMT -6
Just To Be Crystal Clear.......when You Say Rules For Drafting MINOR LEAGUERS.
Those are Guys who have Less Then # To Qualify...ON THE DISK..
FOR Example...Jared Kelenic has 490 ABS on the ZIPS Disk.....Clearly you Cant Draft Him at A Minimum Salary as if he had never played ? Right ??
For our Disk, He's a Major League player....I Think ??
Bill
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Post by New York Mets on May 5, 2021 13:53:43 GMT -6
Just To Be Crystal Clear.......when You Say Rules For Drafting MINOR LEAGUERS. Those are Guys who have Less Then # To Qualify...ON THE DISK.. FOR Example...Jared Kelenic has 490 ABS on the ZIPS Disk.....Clearly you Cant Draft Him at A Minimum Salary as if he had never played ? Right ?? For our Disk, He's a Major League player....I Think ?? Bill Thank you for the question, I'll slide your message and my response over to the draft commentary thread. When we say minor leaguers [ML], we are talking about players who have not reached the MLB rookie eligibility requirements in real life--not the projected statistics on the disk. The projections are just the "what if" scenario imagining how they'd do if given the opportunity to play at the major league level right now. As of the end of the 2020 MLB season, if a player has not accumulated 130+ ABs in real life or 50+ IP in real life, then a team could use 1 of their 3 [ML] wildcards to forgot the slot salary/value and select the player on a [ML] contract. So someone on a [ML] contract can have a projection. Since Kelenic hasn't had the necessary real life experience to meet the rookie eligibility requirements, a [ML] wildcard could be used on him or a team could just draft him and choose to pay him at the slot value. |
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Post by New York Mets on May 5, 2021 15:00:30 GMT -6
Just curious, is there anyone who wouldn't have taken Mike Trout with the first pick?
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Post by Atlanta Braves on May 5, 2021 15:51:07 GMT -6
My dumbass may have taken acuna 🤣
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Post by Los Angeles Angels on May 5, 2021 15:54:55 GMT -6
Just curious, is there anyone who wouldn't have taken Mike Trout with the first pick? I have him ranked #1 ahead of Mookie, but it's not as significant as one may think. Mookie is a year younger and is stronger defensively. I think about 4 runs per season separates the two. It would be a tough call. |
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Post by New York Mets on May 5, 2021 16:15:59 GMT -6
I would have definitely taken Trout. It'll be interesting to see where some of the older players go because I wouldn't be surprised to see things skew young early.
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Post by Los Angeles Angels on May 5, 2021 16:29:48 GMT -6
I would have definitely taken Trout. It'll be interesting to see where some of the older players go because I wouldn't be surprised to see things skew young early. I'm all about that Range, 'bout that Range, no errors! |
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Post by Oakland Athletics on May 5, 2021 17:04:28 GMT -6
Would have taken Acuna maybe Soto thinking if they had a nuclear season this year their projections the next couple wouldn't have to deal with the decline phase of age.
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Post by New York Mets on May 6, 2021 9:36:15 GMT -6
Just To Be Crystal Clear.......when You Say Rules For Drafting MINOR LEAGUERS. Those are Guys who have Less Then # To Qualify...ON THE DISK.. FOR Example...Jared Kelenic has 490 ABS on the ZIPS Disk.....Clearly you Cant Draft Him at A Minimum Salary as if he had never played ? Right ?? For our Disk, He's a Major League player....I Think ?? Bill Thank you for the question, I'll slide your message and my response over to the draft commentary thread. When we say minor leaguers [ML], we are talking about players who have not reached the MLB rookie eligibility requirements in real life--not the projected statistics on the disk. The projections are just the "what if" scenario imagining how they'd do if given the opportunity to play at the major league level right now. As of the end of the 2020 MLB season, if a player has not accumulated 130+ ABs in real life or 50+ IP in real life, then a team could use 1 of their 3 [ML] wildcards to forgot the slot salary/value and select the player on a [ML] contract. So someone on a [ML] contract can have a projection. Since Kelenic hasn't had the necessary real life experience to meet the rookie eligibility requirements, a [ML] wildcard could be used on him or a team could just draft him and choose to pay him at the slot value. Does anyone have other questions or issues that need to be addressed/clarified? With the draft starting, I just want to make sure there's no confusion. |
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Post by Oakland Athletics on May 6, 2021 9:49:02 GMT -6
I understand the wanting to give time but we are going to run into real problems at 48 hours unless we get some lists, email tagging, buddy systems, or live drafting going. In theory it could be the end of June before we finish the first round and then people are drafting with way more information than the people who drafted before. That is just a side product. I am really more worried about drafting the 16th round at the same time as we are doing arbitration packets.
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Post by New York Mets on May 6, 2021 9:52:36 GMT -6
Are people good with just a 48-hour maximum per pick on the 1st Round and then reduced to 24 hours for all of the remaining rounds? Reduce it further for the later rounds?
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Post by Tampa Bay Rays on May 6, 2021 10:05:40 GMT -6
48 hours is a long time, especially in the beginning of the draft when it is much easier to make a list of players you want. I think we could make it 24 hours and not miss a pick. If someone is missing this early in the draft, should they be in the league?
With smart phones it is easy to get alerts when your pick is up with a dm or email. I like the buddy system idea.
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Post by Los Angeles Angels on May 6, 2021 10:51:44 GMT -6
Maybe we should post a default draft list that people can select if they don't want to make their own. I propose using Zips ADP to create the list.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2021 10:59:45 GMT -6
FYI,
I'm keeping track using a "massaged" spreadsheet that Brian sent out. If anyone wants it i'd be glad to post if after each round. I don't mind being the spreadsheet guy. Done it many years and good at excel
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Post by Oakland Athletics on May 6, 2021 11:35:10 GMT -6
I think in the event of skipping we should probably be assigning guys to these teams as to not create completely terrible rosters.
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Post by New York Mets on May 6, 2021 13:10:12 GMT -6
FYI, I'm keeping track using a "massaged" spreadsheet that Brian sent out. If anyone wants it i'd be glad to post if after each round. I don't mind being the spreadsheet guy. Done it many years and good at excel Sliding this over to the commentary thread just because I want to keep the draft clean with picks and updates. Not trying to hide anything or censor anyone. Awesome, thank you very much for doing that! I'll also send an updated database after each round. |
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Post by New York Mets on May 6, 2021 13:13:49 GMT -6
Maybe we should post a default draft list that people can select if they don't want to make their own. I propose using Zips ADP to create the list. Would there be some type of "penalty" like waiting 5 picks after their skipped pick to assign a player to them? I think the issue we run into is that we're not just selecting a player for them, but also the duration of the contract (at least in the early going). I'm hoping we won't have any skipped picks in these initial rounds. In regards to the ADP listing for the ZiPS projections on FanGraphs, my understanding is that is for fantasy baseball--rather than simulation baseball. |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2021 13:17:06 GMT -6
No problem. I'm very hands when it comes to spreadsheets and that stuff
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2021 14:42:47 GMT -6
This is 2021.
There should be no reason someone can not leave a list of 5-10 players with the commish or a volunteer if they are at work, etc.
Just a suggestion.
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Post by New York Mets on May 6, 2021 14:45:55 GMT -6
48 hours is a long time, especially in the beginning of the draft when it is much easier to make a list of players you want. I think we could make it 24 hours and not miss a pick. If someone is missing this early in the draft, should they be in the league? With smart phones it is easy to get alerts when your pick is up with a dm or email. I like the buddy system idea. Sending e-mail notifications to let people know they're up seems to be helping in this early going. I'm totally good with a buddy system where you send a list or something to another GM to use to post your pick when it comes up. Since I repeatedly said the 1st Round would be 48 hours, I feel I need to stick to that, but is 24 hours a good increment for future rounds? |
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Post by Tampa Bay Rays on May 6, 2021 14:51:33 GMT -6
That works. Let's just have the team that just drafted send a dm to the next team telling them they are up.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2021 18:08:21 GMT -6
So I'm working on the spreadsheet and wondering if 100 million is to low of a cap. I mean, after one pick, 15 teams will have 25% of the cap gone. That's one of 50 players. I just wonder if we sold ourselves short
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Post by New York Mets on May 6, 2021 18:24:45 GMT -6
So I'm working on the spreadsheet and wondering if 100 million is to low of a cap. I mean, after one pick, 15 teams will have 25% of the cap gone. That's one of 50 players. I just wonder if we sold ourselves short Just like with MLB, the pay is top-heavy. If you add up the total slot values, a team making all of their selections (not using any of the [ML] wildcards) would commit to only $78.5 million this year. How much is on the books for next year depends on the length of contracts they hand out in the draft. We're building in about a $20 million increase, which will allow teams to keep players who will be earning more in arbitration next year. That also provides flexibility to trade younger players/prospects and take on someone with a higher salary. |
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Post by Oakland Athletics on May 6, 2021 20:19:21 GMT -6
Fully applaud the confidence in Vladdy Jr to pop him for 25 per.
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Post by New York Mets on May 7, 2021 9:56:27 GMT -6
If someone misses declaring the length of the contract (in these early rounds), we'll still continue to move on with that as a valid pick and just ask them to clarify as soon as possible.
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