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Post by New York Mets on Jan 21, 2022 17:18:29 GMT -6
As I'm looking to update the Rulebook, we need to create and agree to the structure of Free Agency. I made that entry vague so that we could collectively decide. E. Free Agency ProcessAt the end of every season, players not under contract would be added to a tiered Free Agency list. The maximum contract length is 4 years with minimum bid increments of at least $100K. Teams must include the years and annual value in their bid. Increasing the years would not improve the offer. At the end of the bidding period, the player will be awarded to the team with the team who offered the highest annual value. A team who re-signs a player will have a 25% hometown discount applied to their winning bid. A player signed in Free Agency cannot be traded until July 1st. We're creating a list of players who will be in our first Free Agency. Feel free to share any ideas, all input is welcome. Included below is what Oakland alluded to... I have some more names I will suggest. On format for FA bidding I think we should have larger groups so the money is being spent. I think we could avoid some of the issues we would run into in the later groups in the other league. |
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Post by New York Mets on Jan 23, 2022 14:52:27 GMT -6
Oakland will have a few more names to add to Free Agency and I'll also go through (when I have some time) now that all of the team projections have been posted on FanGraphs.
In terms of larger groups, what would work best? Maybe 3 separate tiers of players that would be open for bid for like a week or more each?
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Post by Oakland Athletics on Jan 23, 2022 19:25:07 GMT -6
I think we should do the 3 groups. Start them the Sunday after the Super Bowl and have them run a week at a time.
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Post by San Francisco Giants on Jan 23, 2022 21:59:31 GMT -6
No more than a week per groups
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Post by Chicago White Sox on Jan 23, 2022 22:02:12 GMT -6
Agree with the 3 tiers at a week each. Week after the Super Bowl sounds fine for a start time.
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Post by New York Mets on Feb 12, 2022 13:08:44 GMT -6
I'll take one last look to see if we'll add anyone else to Free Agency. If you have any suggestions, please get them in soon. Since Dan Straily and Eric Thames signed with MLB teams, I added them for bidding. Once we have the players set, then we can put together a 3 tiers of groups. With MLB still in a lockout, we don't have to rush things, but Free Agency will be our big next step.
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Post by Oakland Athletics on Feb 12, 2022 15:20:35 GMT -6
I will check through the postings again to see if anything catches my eye to be added. Would still suggest we look to start it next Monday the 21st with the first group closing the 27th if we can. Know of the lockout but the longer we hold off the value changes. Plus I think kicking off FA might have a positive impact on the trade market.
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Post by New York Mets on Feb 12, 2022 15:26:15 GMT -6
I don't disagree. Trying to give the Dodgers through this weekend to see if he's still committed. We have a waitlist and we want to make sure teams have active GMs--especially for Free Agency.
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Post by New York Mets on Feb 28, 2022 20:12:14 GMT -6
B1G Salaries: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d6kWMWWNBmVKd0sCD-SRbUiK7Pvz-KI21CBxJ9YbbhQNow that our 2022 B1G Amateur Draft has concluded, we're turning our attention to our upcoming Free Agency. It was suggested that we structure our Free Agency in three tiers of players. In the final tab of the B1G Salaries Sheet, I've put together a tentative schedule with three tiers of players. This proposal would have each tier starting on a Monday and closing at 9 PM Central on a Sunday. Tier 1: March 7-13Castro, Jason C Ramos, Wilson C Thaiss, Matt C/1B Jones, Taylor 1B Rodriguez, Aderlin 1B Cano, Robinson 2B Stefanic, Michael 2B Park, Hoy SS Walton, Donovan SS Payton, Mark OF Raley, Luke OF Suzuki, Seiya OF Dubin, Shawn SP Hamels, Cole SP Lindblom, Josh SP Martinez, Nick SP Sanmartin, Reiver SP Thomas, Connor SP Bard, Daniel RP Bruihl, Justin RP Coleman, Dylan RP Cordero, Jimmy RP Hunter, Tommy RP Mantiply, Joe RP O'Day, Darren RP Raley, Brooks RP Stumpo, Mitchell RP Suarez, Robert RP Wilson, Steven RP Tier 2: March 14-20Lavarnway, Ryan C Yerzy, Andy C Morrison, Logan 1B Thames, Eric 1B Long, Shed 2B Beckham, Tim SS Davidson, Matt 3B Wilson, Jacob 3B Allen, Greg OF Garlick, Kyle OF Hermosillo, Michael OF Santana, Danny OF Junis, Jacob SP Rolison, Ryan SP Santos, Victor SP Tabor, Matt SP Weiss, Ryan SP Williams, Trevor SP Buttrey, Ty RP Coonrod, Sam RP Finnegan, Kyle RP Jimenez, Dany RP Leclerc, Jose RP Perez, Andrew RP Phelps, David RP Roe, Chaz RP Rosscup, Zac RP Sanders, Phoenix RP Wood, Hunter RP Tier 3: March 21-27Cumberland, Brett C Smith, Kevan C Martinez, Braxton 1B MacKinnon, David 1B Santana, Cristian 3B Brugman, Jaycob OF Desmond, Ian OF Newsome, Ljay SP Pena, Felix SP Strahm, Matt SP Straily, Dan SP Weber, Ryan SP Zimmermann, Bruce SP Gudino, Norwith RP Head, Louis RP Johnson, DJ RP Mills, Wyatt RP Moran, Brian RP Moran, Jovani RP Moreta, Dauri RP Nittoli, Vinny RP Pagan, Emilio RP Peacock, Brad RP Quackenbush, Kevin RP Sherfy, Jimmie RP Smith, Joe RP Stashak, Cody RP Swanson, Erik RP Thorpe, Lewis RP In terms of bidding on players, the maximum contract length a team can offer is 4 years with minimum bid increments of at least $100K. Increasing the years would not improve the offer. Please post any questions or thoughts.
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Post by Oakland Athletics on Feb 28, 2022 20:32:31 GMT -6
Looks good to me.
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Post by Chicago White Sox on Feb 28, 2022 20:42:32 GMT -6
Let's gooooooooo!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2022 10:49:22 GMT -6
ditto
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Post by Oakland Athletics on Mar 1, 2022 11:00:13 GMT -6
Have we outlined the closing bids process for sniping and such?
On that note if you aren't around at the deadline make sure to do your best bid or have a buddy to bid for you. If this goes how it usually goes everyone saves their bids till 8:50 PM CST and we have a clusterfuck.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2022 12:55:55 GMT -6
One way to avoid the "clusterfuck" is the following. The commissioner appoints someone to run the free agent draft. The players have already been divided and the tiers will be called tiers A,B and C. The appointed director of the FA auction sends his bids each day to a neutral third party so everyone knows he made his picks before looking at other teams picks. Once the appointed FA director makes his bids on Tier A players, he opens the bids to all teams and they send their bids to the FA director on the Tier A players on Day 1. On Day 2, the FA director posts the top 5 bids on each player from day 1. The teams that made the top 5 bids on a player are the only teams allowed to bid on said A tier player on Day 2. Those 5 teams bid on said player on Day 2 and the high bid wins on Day 3. If more than one team submits the high bid, the team who provides the most funds over the 4 year contract wins the bid ( amount times years ). If there is still a tie, the team with the most wins in the prior year wins the bid. Once the final winning bids have been awarded for Tier A, the same process will follow with Tier B and Tier C. Note. Teams cannot bid more than the total funds they have available during the bidding on each Tier. So if you have 50 million to bid, you cannot bid more than 50 million for all players in the given tier. Obviously, if you spent 25 million in Tier A, you only have 25 million left to bid in Tier B, etc ( 50-25+25, etc.). Thoughts ?? Once the final winning bids have been awarded to the Tier A players, the FA director will use the same process for Tiers B and C.
If a player fails to obtain any bids, he joins the unemployment pool.
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Post by Miami Marlins on Mar 1, 2022 15:06:59 GMT -6
Closing at 7pm PST on a Sunday is a very tough time for me and probably any others on the west coast
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2022 11:35:57 GMT -6
I object to the presence of Seiya Suzuki on the free agent list. He has not yet signed with a major league team. I attempted to draft him during the initial draft last year, but I was not allowed to do so. If he was not available then, he should not be available now.
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Post by Oakland Athletics on Mar 2, 2022 11:51:30 GMT -6
He is posted and would have signed if MLB owners actually negotiated in good faith. He still plans to sign with a MLB team.
Along those lines if he doesn't sign the team spending the money in our league is taking all the risk so I am not sure the objection.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2022 14:09:16 GMT -6
A couple of questions:
If a team's 50 player roster is full, may that team bid on free agents?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2022 14:53:28 GMT -6
He is posted and would have signed if MLB owners actually negotiated in good faith. He still plans to sign with a MLB team. Along those lines if he doesn't sign the team spending the money in our league is taking all the risk so I am not sure the objection. Which is probably you...lol |
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Post by Oakland Athletics on Mar 2, 2022 15:04:18 GMT -6
He is posted and would have signed if MLB owners actually negotiated in good faith. He still plans to sign with a MLB team. Along those lines if he doesn't sign the team spending the money in our league is taking all the risk so I am not sure the objection. Which is probably you...lol You and a few other teams have more money. Just a matter of putting it out there. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2022 15:43:29 GMT -6
Rest assured, I will not be a player in free agency
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2022 15:56:26 GMT -6
He is posted and would have signed if MLB owners actually negotiated in good faith. He still plans to sign with a MLB team. Along those lines if he doesn't sign the team spending the money in our league is taking all the risk so I am not sure the objection. Agreed... |
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Post by New York Mets on Mar 5, 2022 13:40:47 GMT -6
Rest assured, I will not be a player in free agency You're 47.8 million under the salary cap and you don't intend to spend any money this year to try to improve your team? In Free Agency bidding, you could offer 1-year contracts (so it would not impact your financial situation in any way in future years). Even if you don't want to keep the player, you could sign someone for a year and then trade them along with cash to cover their salary this year to someone for prospects, cash, draft picks. That would improve your team more than not spending it or taking on a bad contract from someone who wants to free up cash--to then spend in Free Agency. |
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Post by New York Mets on Mar 5, 2022 13:45:02 GMT -6
A couple of questions: If a team's 50 player roster is full, may that team bid on free agents? Teams will be able to bid on someone even if they're at 50 players. However, they'll need to get under immediately if they win the player because that would take them over the roster limit. Suzuki will be bid on in our upcoming Free Agency bidding. He's been listed in the Free Agency tab on the B1G Salaries Sheet for months now. The reason he wasn't available in our initial player draft was because he was an international player in another league and we only use MLB/MiLB players. As Oakland mentioned, the lockout was the only reason he hasn't already signed now with a MLB team. It's pretty clear that he will be coming over and playing in MLB this year. In the unlikely event that doesn't happen, he and his contract would be removed from the team who wins him with the highest financial offer. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2022 14:40:19 GMT -6
A couple of questions: If a team's 50 player roster is full, may that team bid on free agents? Teams will be able to bid on someone even if they're at 50 players. However, they'll need to get under immediately if they win the player because that would take them over the roster limit. Suzuki will be bid on in our upcoming Free Agency bidding. He's been listed in the Free Agency tab on the B1G Salaries Sheet for months now. The reason he wasn't available in our initial player draft was because he was an international player in another league and we only use MLB/MiLB players. As Oakland mentioned, the lockout was the only reason he hasn't already signed now with a MLB team. It's pretty clear that he will be coming over and playing in MLB this year. In the unlikely event that doesn't happen, he and his contract would be removed from the team who wins him with the highest financial offer. Because until the actual disk comes out who has the time to look over every player? I don't. That's why. I guarantee that even the most knowledgeable guys in this league have no clue which team half these free agents are on |
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Post by Oakland Athletics on Mar 5, 2022 14:42:44 GMT -6
There is an entire database on fangraphs that you can download into an Excel sheet with the projections of these players.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2022 14:45:29 GMT -6
Can you send the link?
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Post by New York Mets on Mar 5, 2022 15:22:58 GMT -6
Closing at 7pm PST on a Sunday is a very tough time for me and probably any others on the west coast I don't think there's going to be an ideal closing time for anyone. I'm on the West Coast too, but 7 PM Pacific/9 PM Central/10 PM Eastern seems the most reasonable/best option we have. Have we outlined the closing bids process for sniping and such? On that note if you aren't around at the deadline make sure to do your best bid or have a buddy to bid for you. If this goes how it usually goes everyone saves their bids till 8:50 PM CST and we have a clusterfuck. Since we have a good amount of players closing, what makes sense as a reasonable time to extend the closing window for when there is a bid in the last 5-10 minutes? If the last bid on a player was by 8:50 PM CST, then the player would close at 9:00 PM CST. But should we do if there is a bid at 8:59 PM CST. There's not enough time for other teams to put in another bid before 9:00 PM CST. One option would be a 10-minute window. For example, if there's a bid at 8:51 PM CST, then we could close the bidding if there are no other bids by 9:01 PM CST. If there's a bid at 8:59 PM CST, then we could close the bidding if there are no other bids by 9:09 PM CST. And then go by the timestamps of the posts on the forum. As a reminder, you can put in several bids on a player--not just one. In order to improve your offer from another team's and be the highest bidder, you have to bid at least 100K more than the previous offer. You have to specify the years, but you can offer 1, 2, 3, or 4 years. The financial amount you're offering in your bid is the annual amount of the contract. www.fangraphs.com/projections.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&type=zips |
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Post by Oakland Athletics on Mar 5, 2022 15:49:19 GMT -6
I think a 10 minute window is good.
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Post by New York Mets on Mar 5, 2022 16:47:43 GMT -6
If the bidding would continue to get extended, then if the player isn't closed by 10 PM CST, they would remain and close with the next week's group. That would also be an incentive to try to wrap it up and not just try to offer the minimum 100K increase on the next team's bid.
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E. Free Agency Process
I have some more names I will suggest. On format for FA bidding I think we should have larger groups so the money is being spent. I think we could avoid some of the issues we would run into in the later groups in the other league.
