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Post by New York Mets on May 25, 2021 18:59:54 GMT -6
If we use a blackout period between 10 PM to 6 AM CST, what should the maximum time be per pick before being skipped? Please weigh in on this potential option to speed up the draft.
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Post by Oakland Athletics on May 25, 2021 19:06:27 GMT -6
267 seconds imo.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2021 19:17:18 GMT -6
please put us out of our misery... this is brutal and unnecessary.... just leave an email address for someone to leave a list if they cannot make a pick on time.
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Post by Oakland Athletics on May 25, 2021 19:45:17 GMT -6
I voted 2 hours but am open to just starting to drop the limit as we get along in the draft. I donβt want to upset anyone but we are starting to get into the grouping where there is not much difference in value outside of preference.
My suggestion would be to start dropping it around ~15 which would mean everyone has had a chance to build the foundation of their team, lineup, and rotation.
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Post by New York Mets on May 25, 2021 19:54:26 GMT -6
Yeah, I don't think we need to implement anything immediately as long as we can keep a good pace. But with quality of players dropping, it'll make sense to try to speed things up more. I totally understand the desire to get to the actual games. Personally, 2 hours seems a bit much and I'll probably need help with enforcement if that's the preferred option because I don't know that I'll have that flexibility in my schedule with work. I'm also assuming some people might be content with their roster and willingly skip their slot once we start to get to around the 40th Round or so.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2021 22:05:29 GMT -6
Yeah, I don't think we need to implement anything immediately as long as we can keep a good pace. But with quality of players dropping, it'll make sense to try to speed things up more. I totally understand the desire to get to the actual games. Personally, 2 hours seems a bit much and I'll probably need help with enforcement if that's the preferred option because I don't know that I'll have that flexibility in my schedule with work. I'm also assuming some people might be content with their roster and willingly skip their slot once we start to get to around the 40th Round or so.
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Post by New York Mets on May 25, 2021 22:17:56 GMT -6
Yeah, I don't think we need to implement anything immediately as long as we can keep a good pace. But with quality of players dropping, it'll make sense to try to speed things up more. I totally understand the desire to get to the actual games. Personally, 2 hours seems a bit much and I'll probably need help with enforcement if that's the preferred option because I don't know that I'll have that flexibility in my schedule with work. I'm also assuming some people might be content with their roster and willingly skip their slot once we start to get to around the 40th Round or so. Not sure if this accidentally posted before you typed your message, but just wanted to let you know it only came through as a quote.
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Post by Miami Marlins on May 25, 2021 23:11:49 GMT -6
Ending the blackout at 4am for me daily isn't really ideal, especially with a two hour window. I will miss that window often if my pick falls in there. If that's the case then I think we should make the window go later to be fair. Make the blackout 12-6 so its later for one side of the country and early for the other.
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Post by Texas Rangers on May 26, 2021 7:05:35 GMT -6
I am rarely awake at 11:00 pm EDT but if I get skipped so be it ... I'll complete my wake up pick early the following morning.
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Post by Tampa Bay Rays on May 26, 2021 9:49:12 GMT -6
I know the blackout time will not be convenient for everyone, but you can send in a list of you see that you are coming up soon and not have to worry about being skipped.
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Post by Oakland Athletics on May 26, 2021 9:57:16 GMT -6
I know the blackout time will not be convenient for everyone, but you can send in a list of you see that you are coming up soon and not have to worry about being skipped. But then they might know that I want to take Tim Tebow and steal him for themselves!
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Post by Los Angeles Dodgers on May 26, 2021 10:48:43 GMT -6
4 hours
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Post by Los Angeles Angels on May 26, 2021 11:33:01 GMT -6
I know the blackout time will not be convenient for everyone, but you can send in a list of you see that you are coming up soon and not have to worry about being skipped. But then they might know that I want to take Tim Tebow and steal him for themselves! If he was eligible and you played him at RF, he'd cost you 103 runs by my imperfect calculation; worst position player projection in the database. Not quite as bad as Anderson Polanco's ~9.00ERA, who, with his AV starting durability would cost 156 runs if the computer manager doesn't pull him.
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Post by Los Angeles Angels on May 26, 2021 17:26:08 GMT -6
Once someone is skipped, I assume they'd be skipped their next time up as well
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Post by New York Mets on May 26, 2021 19:52:54 GMT -6
Once someone is skipped, I assume they'd be skipped their next time up as well Yes, unless they post their makeup selection for their skipped pick before their next pick comes up.
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Post by Oakland Athletics on May 26, 2021 19:56:49 GMT -6
I think we should have some max cap on letting a team go being skipped to where we give them something. Letting a team go 5 rounds or something being skipped at this point probably isn't fair for multiple reasons.
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Post by Boston Red Sox on May 26, 2021 20:04:33 GMT -6
I think we should have some max cap on letting a team go being skipped to where we give them something. Letting a team go 5 rounds or something being skipped at this point probably isn't fair for multiple reasons. Best WAR at the end of the round
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Post by New York Mets on May 26, 2021 22:58:09 GMT -6
Just as a heads up because it can be faint and hard to see, but there is a box to the left of each option so you can cast your vote. I'm not able to see how people voted, but I can see that they voted. If you cast your vote for 4 hours, then this appears to currently be a tie. Everyone, be sure to weigh in with your opinion on the poll. The closer we can get to a majority, the closer we can get to putting this in action.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2021 5:54:06 GMT -6
I think we should have some max cap on letting a team go being skipped to where we give them something. Letting a team go 5 rounds or something being skipped at this point probably isn't fair for multiple reasons. Best WAR at the end of the round I do not understand the problem.
When someone makes a pick after being skipped, they still have to pay slot value unless a ML pick, etc. It is not unfair to tell someone they will have to make a pick or submit a list to an email address. It is ridiculous, absent an emergency, to make 23 owners wait for hours because you will make a pick when you feel like it.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2021 5:54:47 GMT -6
If owners are tied between 2 and 4 hours between picks, make it 3 hours and move on.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2021 7:13:05 GMT -6
If we make 12 picks a day...much faster pace than now...then it would take us another 80 days or so to finish up. So we can start our season around July 27th? Thats 4 months into the current MLB season. And thats if we pick up the pace.
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Post by Boston Red Sox on May 27, 2021 8:30:45 GMT -6
Gentlemen, its the initial league startup. Its going to take a bit to get going. Everyone wants to pick, and play the games. When we finally get the rosters set, it'll be smooth sailing. The last league I was in lasted well over 15 years, and we started from the ground up. I wish we could also draft faster to get these shiny toys, but its unrealistic to get 30 GMS together on the same night like a fantasy draft on Yahoo, and draft 1500 players.
Lets get this right, with patience.
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Post by New York Mets on May 27, 2021 10:58:59 GMT -6
Best WAR at the end of the round I do not understand the problem.
When someone makes a pick after being skipped, they still have to pay slot value unless a ML pick, etc. It is not unfair to tell someone they will have to make a pick or submit a list to an email address. It is ridiculous, absent an emergency, to make 23 owners wait for hours because you will make a pick when you feel like it. Totally understand. One of the issues with 30 different people in a league is that we're all from different time zones, which impacts availability--in addition to everyone having a different work life. We've already seen some people who aren't able to make their pick if it comes up late at night, for example. As you point out though, it's not really a great excuse because people can send in a list. I think we can strike a good balance where we complete the draft right to set up the foundation for the league while also speeding it up to ensure we can get on a reasonable schedule. I appreciate everyone's patience because I know it's frustrating when we have delays for several hours.
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Post by New York Mets on May 27, 2021 11:01:48 GMT -6
I think we should have some max cap on letting a team go being skipped to where we give them something. Letting a team go 5 rounds or something being skipped at this point probably isn't fair for multiple reasons. I think we can kind of play that by ear. To me, that's also part of the incentive/motivation to be prepared or sending in a list. Although we've had some sizeable delays, everyone has ultimately made their pick. Hopefully there wouldn't be a situation where there's several skipped picks, but that might be grounds for finding a new GM anyway if they're not able to check in on the forum or send in a list.
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Post by Oakland Athletics on May 27, 2021 12:29:57 GMT -6
My suggestion would be we go 3 rounds before backfilling on skipped picks. While still providing consequences for inactivity and rewarding participation, it is not creating a suck of a team to inflate divisional wins for competitors or making a roster that is a complete mess if we have to go looking for a new GM.
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Post by New York Mets on May 27, 2021 17:38:34 GMT -6
My suggestion would be we go 3 rounds before backfilling on skipped picks. While still providing consequences for inactivity and rewarding participation, it is not creating a suck of a team to inflate divisional wins for competitors or making a roster that is a complete mess if we have to go looking for a new GM. In the event we do find ourselves in that position, I think that's a good plan.
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Post by New York Mets on May 29, 2021 12:14:24 GMT -6
Right now, 4 hours is holding as the preferred option. I'd like to get this settled and send out proper notice. Right now, I'm planning on implementing the preferred option for the 13th Round. Thoughts?
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2021 12:16:20 GMT -6
I agree with whatever but we definitely need to speed things up a bit
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Post by Boston Red Sox on May 29, 2021 12:33:59 GMT -6
Right now, 4 hours is holding as the preferred option. I'd like to get this settled and send out proper notice. Right now, I'm planning on implementing the preferred option for the 13th Round. Thoughts? 12th round π
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Post by New York Mets on May 29, 2021 12:54:09 GMT -6
Right now, 4 hours is holding as the preferred option. I'd like to get this settled and send out proper notice. Right now, I'm planning on implementing the preferred option for the 13th Round. Thoughts? 12th round π I definitely would like to implement it as soon as possible, but Memorial Day weekend is also a bit of a complication in reducing the time immediately. With the quality of players becoming less impactful, I think the time to make the change is very soon though and hopefully we can get a few more votes to actually make it a majority.
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