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Post by New York Mets on Apr 29, 2021 22:23:41 GMT -6
I tried to offer a little variety for people to choose their preferred option. Please vote on the poll. - Option A: No ChangesRound1 (1-15) 25M 1 (16-30) 22M 2 (1-15) 15 M 2 (16-30) 12M 3 10M 4 7.5M 5 5M 6 3M 7-8 2/A2/A3 9-15 1/A1/A2/A3 16-26 .5/1/A1/A2/A3 27+ 0/.5/A1 or ML This is the adjusted structure created by San Francisco. - Option B: 3 [ML] Wildcards Round1 (1-15) 25M 1 (16-30) 22M 2 (1-15) 15 M 2 (16-30) 12M 3 10M 4 7.5M 5 5M 6 3M 7-8 2/A2/A3 9-15 1/A1/A2/A3 16-26 .5/1/A1/A2/A3 27+ 0/.5/A1 or ML This is the same structure created by San Francisco, but teams would have 3 [ML] wildcards. A team would be able to forgo the salary/contract in a particular round if they choose to select a player that has not gained real-life rookie eligibility in MLB--as of the end of 2020, the player would have to have fewer than 130 MLB ABs or 50 MLB IP in their career. - Option C: Paid Contracts End SoonerRound1 (1-15) 25M 1 (16-30) 22M 2 (1-15) 15 M 2 (16-30) 12M 3 10M 4 7.5M 5 5M 6 4M 7 3/A2/A3 8 2/A2/A3 9-15 1/A1/A2/A3 16-20 .5/1/A1/A2/A3 21+ 0/.5/A1 or Minors This is a slightly adjusted structure with the paid contracts end at a sooner slot, which would enable teams to select minor league players earlier without starting their financial clock immediately. As of the 21st Round, the [0/.5/A1] or [ML] contracts would begin with the money redistributed in earlier rounds. |
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Post by Los Angeles Angels on Apr 30, 2021 9:19:09 GMT -6
Just to confirm my understanding: in case B, if someone selects someone like Yermin Mercedes in an early round, they get him for $0?
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Apr 30, 2021 10:01:47 GMT -6
Just to confirm my understanding: in case B, if someone selects someone like Yermin Mercedes in an early round, they get him for $0? Essentially, he'd be on the ML payscale. He'd occupy a roster spot on the reserve roster. |
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Post by Oakland Athletics on Apr 30, 2021 10:19:58 GMT -6
I would guess the team would declare him as either the pick pay scale or as one of their designated spots.
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Post by Tampa Bay Rays on Apr 30, 2021 11:24:18 GMT -6
Just to confirm my understanding: in case B, if someone selects someone like Yermin Mercedes in an early round, they get him for $0? He would be worth the $25 million. |
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Post by New York Mets on Apr 30, 2021 12:01:10 GMT -6
Just to confirm my understanding: in case B, if someone selects someone like Yermin Mercedes in an early round, they get him for $0? It would be up to the discretion of the team selecting the player. The team can choose to apply the salary/contract for the draft slot or use up 1 of their 3 [ML] wildcard spots--provided the player has not met the MLB rookie eligibility requirements as of the end of the 2020 season. You wouldn't be able to select Mike Trout and put him on a [ML] contract. If a team is selecting someone like Yermin Mercedes in the 9th Round, they can choose to apply the [1/A1/A2/A3] contract or use up 1 of their 3 [ML] wildcard spots. If he's on the [ML] contract this year and Yermin exceeds those MLB rookie eligibility requirements by the end of the year, then he would move to the [.5/1/A1/A2/A3] contract in the offseason--whereas he would already be entering his A1 stage of arbitration if the draft slot salary/contract is used. If you don't apply the salary/contract, you lose it for that draft slot since the [ML] contract takes its place. Does that make sense? |
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Post by Philadelphia Phillies on Apr 30, 2021 17:45:57 GMT -6
If I read this right, whoever picks 1st overall also push first when the ML’s start. I think that should be adjusted a round one way or the other.
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Post by Los Angeles Angels on May 1, 2021 1:20:07 GMT -6
If I read this right, whoever picks 1st overall also push first when the ML’s start. I think that should be adjusted a round one way or the other. I'd second that |
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Post by Los Angeles Angels on May 1, 2021 1:20:30 GMT -6
Just to confirm my understanding: in case B, if someone selects someone like Yermin Mercedes in an early round, they get him for $0? He would be worth the $25 million. Does he zip well enough this season though, idk |
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Post by New York Mets on May 1, 2021 10:45:47 GMT -6
If I read this right, whoever picks 1st overall also push first when the ML’s start. I think that should be adjusted a round one way or the other. I'd second that I'm good with starting the [0/.5/A1] or [ML] slots in the 26th Round instead to account for that. |
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Post by New York Mets on May 1, 2021 11:26:10 GMT -6
What are people's thoughts on when we start the draft? Since this won't be live and it'll take place over time on the forum, I don't think we need to wait until a weekend to start. This vote might take a little while to reach a majority, but I was thinking of sending an announcement when this vote is determined and then starting the draft like a day or two after that.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2021 11:28:05 GMT -6
I'm ok with that. I'll admit I haven't read everything posted on here but assume it's a random order for picking
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Post by New York Mets on May 1, 2021 11:33:33 GMT -6
I'm ok with that. I'll admit I haven't read everything posted on here but assume it's a random order for picking The order would be set using a random number generator and then we would have a snake draft, which you can also visualize with the colored slots in the Excel I sent. I think I should be able to stream using a random number generator on Twitch. Not exactly riveting entertainment, but it would offer transparency. |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2021 11:49:20 GMT -6
Crazy question but can the list of draft eligible players with projections be exported into a exel sheet? This way we could track who's gone? 50 rounds is alot to not miss someone when researching
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Post by New York Mets on May 1, 2021 11:57:18 GMT -6
Crazy question but can the list of draft eligible players with projections be exported into a exel sheet? This way we could track who's gone? 50 rounds is alot to not miss someone when researching I'll be tracking the selections in an Excel with tabs for each team so we have a spreadsheet as rosters develop. I'll also create and update the Diamond Mind database as we go--remember to purchase the 2021 ZiPS projection database. I don't think you can export from Diamond Mind into a spreadsheet (there might be a more complicated way to do it), but the ZiPS projections are also on FanGraphs. You can go to the Export Data link above the table to create a spreadsheet with statistics to do your own tracking.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2021 6:18:39 GMT -6
sounds good to me except not sure why it would take a GM 2 days to make a pick or send you a list but I bow to your experience as a Commissioner.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2021 6:27:34 GMT -6
I would think the earlier the draft the easier the pick is. The later the draft goes the less players and more time it could take to make picks
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Post by Arizona Diamondbacks on May 2, 2021 16:37:07 GMT -6
What are people's thoughts on when we start the draft? Since this won't be live and it'll take place over time on the forum, I don't think we need to wait until a weekend to start. This vote might take a little while to reach a majority, but I was thinking of sending an announcement when this vote is determined and then starting the draft like a day or two after that. I'm fine starting whenever works best for the commish. I still personally need to work my way through the rules.... |
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Post by Oakland Athletics on May 2, 2021 16:41:16 GMT -6
I am fine starting the draft this midweek. I am all set for the ultimate disappointment of random number generator failure.
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Post by New York Mets on May 3, 2021 10:32:58 GMT -6
With 16 votes for the 3 [ML] Wildcards option, we have now reached a consensus. I'll send out an announcement later today, set the random snake draft order, and let everyone know we'll start the draft this week. Does Wednesday sound good? Since the first few rounds are so important, I'm leaning against 48 hours for at least the 1st and 2nd Rounds. People are starting to get in the habit of checking in on the forum, but it's not routine for some people so I think a 48-hour maximum when your pick comes up will help us get in a groove before reducing it to 24 hours for the rest of the draft.
In terms of the random snake draft order, my idea is to use a random number generator (1-1000) to assign a number to each team and then sort them from smallest to largest to determine our 1-30 order. If there happens to be a tie, then I'd use the random number generator again to settle it. Thoughts?
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Post by New York Mets on May 3, 2021 21:08:20 GMT -6
Just an update: having some issues with Twitch and OBS Studio, but I still should be able to get it done on a different computer later tonight.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2021 8:46:12 GMT -6
With the first pick.. the New York Yankees select................
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Post by New York Mets on May 4, 2021 11:15:53 GMT -6
Since it took me until the morning to figure out the issue to be able to live stream, we'll start the draft on Thursday, May 6th, with the clock officially beginning at 9 AM PST. I'll send out an announcement shortly.
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Post by Boston Red Sox on May 4, 2021 11:56:08 GMT -6
Can team start to draft now without waiting for Thursday?
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Post by Oakland Athletics on May 4, 2021 13:02:45 GMT -6
I would say you don't start the clock till Thursday but if any team wants to rush their pick to the podium I wouldn't see why that would be a problem. We aren't doing the pomp and circumstance and with the time being 48 hours between picks I assume we will be finished around the start of Free Agency 2024.
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Post by Miami Marlins on May 4, 2021 15:02:19 GMT -6
I'm good with making my pick now unless anyone objects and wants to wait for some reason.
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Post by Oakland Athletics on May 4, 2021 15:13:50 GMT -6
We already know you are going to take Juan Uribe and ruin everything for all of us.
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Post by New York Mets on May 4, 2021 16:04:17 GMT -6
I would say you don't start the clock till Thursday but if any team wants to rush their pick to the podium I wouldn't see why that would be a problem. We aren't doing the pomp and circumstance and with the time being 48 hours between picks I assume we will be finished around the start of Free Agency 2024. I'm totally fine with this. If you so choose, you can go ahead and post your selection. You don't have to rush because you won't officially be on the clock yet, but this would be a good way to kickstart it with a soft open. I can even send an e-mail later to clarify for everyone so there's no confusion. |
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Post by New York Mets on May 12, 2021 20:40:27 GMT -6
- Option B: 3 [ML] Wildcards
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16-25 .5/1/A1/A2/A3
26+ 0/.5/A1 or ML
Just wanted to call everyone's attention again to the fact that players in the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd Rounds can be signed for up to 4 years and then players in the 4th, 5th, and 6th Rounds can be signed for up to 3 years. The contracts for the rounds beyond that have the length already built in. As suggested before the draft, we'll start the [0/.5/A1] or [ML] slot values starting in the 26th Round to enable the teams who were picking in the bottom half (at the start) will have the first opportunity--to try to help balance the benefit teams had picking first.
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